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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 12:21:39 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 12:26:36 GMT -5
My opinion is that, yes bikes are inherently more dangerous than cars. They are lighter, more powerful and you have no structure around you to protect you in any type of mishap. However, we take this risk for granted. These facts are obvious to bikers and would be to cage drivers if they ever stopped to think about it. Trouble is they don't think. That is where the greatest danger comes in. I heard this past week that Ohio is considering banning texting while driving. I would like to see a ban on ALL electronic distractions in cars. Cell phone, DVD players, GPS units, laptops etc. I would support a fine of $500 minimum first time offense for anyone caught 'distracted' driving. Just my $0.02
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Post by bill on Mar 29, 2009 12:30:43 GMT -5
Is Peanut Butter more dangerous than a chocolate eclair? sure is if you are allergic to nuts.
Nothing is dangerous until you give it to a human being! This is an old chestnut, they encourage us to get back onto push bikes in cities to save congestion?
Like we all have a death wish that's why we ride bikes, right?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2009 13:01:15 GMT -5
I did read this earlier:
"Saying guns cause crime is like saying a spoon causes obesity."
Its ust a tool.
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Post by xsyamahadg on Mar 29, 2009 16:13:50 GMT -5
I think motorcycles are more dangerous than cars because as stated before, most motorcycles are faster than cars, they offer less protection than cars and if you make a mistake, you get very few second chances. Motorcycling is a dangerous sport. Having said that, dangerous as it may be, I still prefer riding my bike as opposed to driving my car.
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Post by marvinsc on Mar 29, 2009 18:17:20 GMT -5
Not as dangerous as cars are to Motorcycles.
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Post by oldbeemer on Mar 30, 2009 23:05:20 GMT -5
I'll go with Bill on this one, they're both safe until humans get involved. You do not need electronics to be distracted, I have seen drivers reading newspapers and drinking coffee at 65 mph . At the same time.
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Post by bill on Mar 31, 2009 0:24:38 GMT -5
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Post by vstrom2up on Mar 31, 2009 9:17:14 GMT -5
I love how in Dave's article it says "statistically, you are in more danger in a car than riding." What are the statistics?!! I bet I can make the same numbers support either view. Is there more fatalities in cars than bikes? Sure. But now take the numbers and compare them to the AMOUNT of cars out there vs. the bikes and what does the car or bike per crash numbers say? They also use the magic of statistics to support that most motorcycle crashes happen on the side roads rather than the highway. Could it be because there are more motorcycles riding on the side roads than the highway?!!! Always question a "statistic"!!! Statistics rant aside, I think regardless of if it's the car or the bike that made the mistake, you are comparatively unprotected and therefore I think the bike is more dangerous. Like XS says...you get very few second chances on a bike! But so what...let's ride!
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Post by oldbeemer on Mar 31, 2009 12:34:16 GMT -5
I believe it was Mark Twain who said " there are lies, damned lies, and statistics" Motorcycles are less forgiving if you do something wrong as they are unstable and have less protection.
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Post by bill on Mar 31, 2009 13:38:59 GMT -5
I think the laws of natural selection have a way of leveling out the playing field!
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Post by bill on Mar 31, 2009 13:44:14 GMT -5
Yep when people like this are driving!
83-year-old banned after driving at 10mph
31 March 2009 18:08
An 83-year-old motorist who failed an eyesight test after causing long tailbacks while driving at less than 20mph on a national speed limit road has been banned from driving.
Ex-RAF serviceman Ronald Wilders, from Waveney Drive, Hoveton, was seen to be driving at 10-15mph on the A1151 road at Rackheath at about 5pm on January 13, Norwich Magistrates' Court heard
An off-duty policeman in the queue that had built up behind Mr Wilders followed him home and then contact-ed officers who gave Mr Wilders an eyesight test the following day.
The court heard that Mr Wilders could only see a car number plate from three metres away while the distance required to pass a driving test is 20.5m.
Mr Wilders admitted driving without reasonable consideration and with defective eyesight when he appeared in court on Monday.
Magistrates banned him from driving until he passes a new test, handed him a six-month conditional discharge, and ordered him to pay £65 costs.
Denis King, prosecuting, said Mr Wilders had been shopping with his wife, and she was in the Ford Fiesta with him.
Mr King said: "It was dark at the time and the road surface was damp. It's a six-mile stretch of road between Sprowston and Wroxham and four miles is 50mph while the last two miles is 60mph.
"Mr Wilders was driving between 10 and 15mph and there was a lengthening queue of traffic behind him. Mr Wilders was seen to brake and pull over to the side of the road as he was confronted by the car lights coming towards him.
"He was followed to his home by an off-duty policeman who was in the queue. Following the incident police officers in daylight carried out an eyesight test, which Mr Wilders failed."
Mr Wilders, who was not represent-ed, asked his son Brendan Wilders to help with his mitigation.
Mr Wilders junior said his father had already written a statement to the court in his defence.
The son said: "My father has never been in court before and he finds this very stressful. He has a clean licence and has never been criticised for his driving before. Failing the eye test was a shock to him. He has been having eye treatment and is awaiting results to see whether his eyesight can be restored."
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Post by mgorman on Apr 1, 2009 7:09:45 GMT -5
Yes, humans tend to ruin everything. The stats will probably say more people are hurt driving cars because there are more cars on the road than bikes.
Airplanes are supposedly the safest means of travel per mile but when you do crash a plane walking away from it is pretty slim unless you hit water.
I think in Ohio dvd players have to be behind the driver. I'd rather see a person use a gps unit than try to read a map while driving. A few years back a prominent elected official was found dead in his car after striking a bridge. There was a map open and laying in the front of the car with him. They think he was trying to read the map and lost control. The gps unit is usually near the line of sight where a heads up display would be, not on the car seat beside you or across the steering wheel. How many people say they looked at a radio then bang!? Plus, I'd rather have a voice telling me where to turn than to keep trying to read something that is in 5pt print.
What they need is to make the gps unit non programable while in motion. The unit we have can be set up that way as an option.
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Post by shoe48 on Apr 1, 2009 18:59:24 GMT -5
Had I been in a car ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, I would still be riding motorcycles .
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Post by mgorman on Apr 10, 2009 7:39:24 GMT -5
Originally Posted by crashmaster (Advrider) Go for it, but treat it with alot of respect and restraint. In a crash I would be more concerned about yourself than the bike. You may not ever find the limitations of the bike, but the bike will definitely hand your ass to you once in a while.
Amen
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