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Post by xsyamahadg on Jan 28, 2008 13:32:23 GMT -5
I agree that in most cases loud is not always better. In X-90's case, he spent his money in the right direction with a tuned exhaust and then spent the money to have it checked out on the dyno. The end result was an increase in torque and H/P, and since I rode behind his bike, I can attest to the fact it sounds good.
The V-star is a different story, I don't think you can realize an increase in torque and H/P with a set of slip on's or a pair of shotguns without an all out change up of the air cleaner and complete jetting. Even then I'm skeptical of a marked increase. That is to say that I think the aftermarket exhaust for most metric cruisers are aimed at making noise as opposed to increasing performance.
I could be wrong, I was wrong on one other occasion in my life. ;D
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Post by 87fxlr on Jan 28, 2008 13:44:49 GMT -5
Guess which one I checked I'm between the Loud Pipes Save Lives and the I want to be heard categories. The stock horns on most bikes are rather anemic at best. I have used the exhaust to more than once to get the attention of the blue haired Caddy driving school marm and the I gotta yak on the cell phone soccer mom. Besides it's not healthy to keep all of that sound bottled up and not let it get out! Just think of what would happen if you ate a big plate of beans and corn bread washed down with your favorite bottle of brew. You have a recipe for disaster if you don't release that pent up fuel!
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Post by mgorman on Jan 28, 2008 15:57:28 GMT -5
That's why I research things to death, Don't want to spend moneyon something that won't work.
I was one of the few who raced 4 strokes thru the 80's in MX and scrambles. The Can-Am was so loud that it drowned out all the 2 stroke exhaust notes. Even when I was miles into the woods, my dad knew when I crashed or stalled, it was that bad. The thing also gave me a ringing head ache even when wearing a helmet which is the second reason I quieted it down.
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Post by xsyamahadg on Feb 1, 2008 9:08:23 GMT -5
It looks like the majority prefer stock exhaust, but with only 12 votes, it's not a big poll. I actually thought we'd see some votes for "Loud pipes save lives" or some more votes on "I want added performance".
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Post by maxpower on Feb 1, 2008 15:51:45 GMT -5
I put a Hindle 4 into 1 system on the Vmax for two reasons. First, the stock exhaust weighs a ton and is famously restrictive due to EPA restrictions. I jetted it and WOW, is there a difference. Second, the stock pipes were very quiet and, dare I say, kinda wimpy sounding. The bike now rumbles without being obnoxious. Best upgrade I could have done performance wise and yes, for me, it is all about performance. Looking good doesn't hurt though. I have noticed that alot of my V-twin friends have installed straight pipes for noise and wonder why their bike pops and cackles and runs like crap. This is an upgrade that requires that you do your homework. There are a lot of crappy pipes out there and if you're gonna just throw less restrictive mufflers on stock pipes, there will be no performance upgrade, just bad noise.
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Post by maxpower on Feb 1, 2008 15:53:49 GMT -5
XS, look into the Vance & Hines pipes for the V-star. I just put a set on my dads Magna and they sound great. What ever you do, stay away from the Cobras. I've heard nothing but bad about them.
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Post by jeffe on Feb 1, 2008 23:00:12 GMT -5
When the exhaust finally get beyond the coffee can stage I will have to go to aftermarket. Stock exhaust for my XS11 are almost impossible to find. If you do see one in good shape they go for sometime over $700 to a $1000. I will go after one that is close to stock as possible so I won't have to re-jet carbs and be deafened.
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Post by xsyamahadg on Feb 2, 2008 7:04:38 GMT -5
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